Comments on: How about Generation “Why Can’t We All Just Get Along?” http://thehiringsite.careerbuilder.com/2008/09/17/how-about-generation-why-cant-we-all-just-get-along/ A Community for Hiring Professionals - Attract, Engage & Retain Your #1 Asset Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:50:59 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Jonathan http://thehiringsite.careerbuilder.com/2008/09/17/how-about-generation-why-cant-we-all-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-360 Jonathan Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:41:04 +0000 http://thehiringsite.careerbuilder.com/?p=629#comment-360 These are interesting thoughts. Being a <del>bit of a</del> geek, this kind of conversation makes me think of the overall changes that have occurred in Western culture in recent years. As far as I can see, we Gen Y-ers (and I think Gen Why-ers nails me) are the first generation to grow up entirely under the widespread existence of postmodernism. Countercultural things like the hippie, punk rock, goth, etc. movements in the 1960s, 70s, and 80s marked the emergence of postmodernism and anti-modernism from the halls of university English departments, but it has taken a while for it to get into the minds of people in general. In light of that, what if many of these things we are seeing are a cultural shift, rather than a generational shift? Just to look at the list of characteristics in the post, what if we need constant praise because we have grown up under the idea that everything is relative, and what is good work for one employer, or on a given day, may not be good for another, or on another day? What if we are disrespectful because we have been given a framework of thinking that legitimized itself by questioning and dismantling every form of authority with which it was presented? What if we feel entitled because we have been given thoughts of creating our own realities? What if we have no sense of loyalty because the senses of loyalty that postmodernism reacted to were responsible for horrible things from slavery to wars to genocides? I suppose knowing what we want and knowing how to get it has passed me by... I spend too much time asking rhetorical philosophical questions. And what if we value social responsibility because we fear being responsible for continuing the same horrors of previous generations, or paving new roads of failure? Just saying. I don't necessarily have an answer for any of those questions, but I think they are valid ones to ask, especially in light of the fact that the generations that come after us will inherit the same cultural framework that we have. These are interesting thoughts. Being a bit of a geek, this kind of conversation makes me think of the overall changes that have occurred in Western culture in recent years. As far as I can see, we Gen Y-ers (and I think Gen Why-ers nails me) are the first generation to grow up entirely under the widespread existence of postmodernism. Countercultural things like the hippie, punk rock, goth, etc. movements in the 1960s, 70s, and 80s marked the emergence of postmodernism and anti-modernism from the halls of university English departments, but it has taken a while for it to get into the minds of people in general.

In light of that, what if many of these things we are seeing are a cultural shift, rather than a generational shift?

Just to look at the list of characteristics in the post, what if we need constant praise because we have grown up under the idea that everything is relative, and what is good work for one employer, or on a given day, may not be good for another, or on another day?

What if we are disrespectful because we have been given a framework of thinking that legitimized itself by questioning and dismantling every form of authority with which it was presented?

What if we feel entitled because we have been given thoughts of creating our own realities?

What if we have no sense of loyalty because the senses of loyalty that postmodernism reacted to were responsible for horrible things from slavery to wars to genocides?

I suppose knowing what we want and knowing how to get it has passed me by… I spend too much time asking rhetorical philosophical questions.

And what if we value social responsibility because we fear being responsible for continuing the same horrors of previous generations, or paving new roads of failure?

Just saying. I don’t necessarily have an answer for any of those questions, but I think they are valid ones to ask, especially in light of the fact that the generations that come after us will inherit the same cultural framework that we have.

]]> By: Ron Meledandri - Sentra Business Solutions http://thehiringsite.careerbuilder.com/2008/09/17/how-about-generation-why-cant-we-all-just-get-along/comment-page-1/#comment-359 Ron Meledandri - Sentra Business Solutions Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:32:44 +0000 http://thehiringsite.careerbuilder.com/?p=629#comment-359 I understand that when you look at people like Zuckerberg you "feel like suckers." However, for every success like his there are thousands of failures which, of course, never make the front pages. Because of the length of time that my generation (and I am 61)has been in the business world, we know that the Zuckerbergs of the world are exceptions. We have seen many more business people build good, solid businesses over a much longer period of time. We have seen many "great" business models and management fads come and go. I can't tell you how many people half my age told me during the dot-com boom that I just didn't understand the "new business model." As for respect, I do believe there is less respect today because oppotunities are more plentiful and benefits no longer tie an employee to a company. Years ago, people showed respect out of fear of losing their job. The longer the employment with a company the better the benefits and the greater the job security. Today that is not the case. I understand that when you look at people like Zuckerberg you “feel like suckers.” However, for every success like his there are thousands of failures which, of course, never make the front pages. Because of the length of time that my generation (and I am 61)has been in the business world, we know that the Zuckerbergs of the world are exceptions. We have seen many more business people build good, solid businesses over a much longer period of time. We have seen many “great” business models and management fads come and go. I can’t tell you how many people half my age told me during the dot-com boom that I just didn’t understand the “new business model.”

As for respect, I do believe there is less respect today because oppotunities are more plentiful and benefits no longer tie an employee to a company. Years ago, people showed respect out of fear of losing their job. The longer the employment with a company the better the benefits and the greater the job security. Today that is not the case.

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