- October 28, 2009
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“Working for You Isn’t Working for Me” Authors on Bad Bosses and More: Part III
During Part III of my conversation with “Working for You Isn’t Working for Me: The Ultimate Guide to Managing Your Boss” authors Katherine Crowley and Kathi Elster, we discussed actionable steps bosses can take right now to start on the path to becoming better bosses–and Katherine and Kathi offered bosses some unabashed advice on leading in today’s workplace environment. Read on for interview Part III (of three):
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1. If you could give one piece of advice to bosses, what would it be?
Kathi: I think they should give every new hire the boss baggage assessment. I think they should not hire people who cannot fulfill their expectations and needs, or whose fears they know they’re going to trip. I just think it’s important.
Katherine: What I would also say is, to carefully state your expectations and find out what theirs are of you. Define the relationship from the beginning. Oftentimes, that never happens. The boss is the one who has to define the relationship, because you could be hired by HR or someone else–that doesn’t matter. What matters is once you’ve accepted the job and you’re in that office or whatever setting, and you’re working for that person, you need to know what the job really is—what’s expected of you and what you can expect from your boss.
Kathi: I also think I’d like bosses to own the fact that there is an unfairness in the power between an employee and a boss. And that that generates issues and fears for people. That they do have power over this person, and to be responsible with that. A lot of bosses misuse it. They put fear in people, and I would just like them to be more responsible with that power.
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2. Anything else you’d like to tell employers?
Kathi: This is our second bosses on workplace interpersonal dynamics, and this is something we’ve been studying and working on for a long time, and I think it’s getting really, really critical for people to wake up, because the multicultural workplace and multi-generations, it’s so evident that we’re not going to get along if we don’t start paying attention to these things. It’s no longer just white men running companies anymore—it’s really, really changed tremendously, and continues to change. And I think younger generations want more of a work-life balance, they have different priorities. So I think the time has really come to start looking at your employees as people, and knowing if you want to grow a company, you have to understand how to grow your people. I think that was dropped out for quite some time. It’s not that we all need our hands held–I’m not talking about child care. But just to understand that people come to work but they have needs, expectations and fears and they have to be dealt with, not ignored.
Kathi: First of all, there’s no offices anymore, everybody’s sort of out in the open and you hear so much, and then the people who aren’t even in the office, the telecommuting, and then the diversity of freelance, part-time, that whole element–if we don’t start getting this whole communication thing under control, it’s going to be a big problem. As they say, people don’t quit jobs, or companies, they quit bosses. They usually like the company. Usually people like what the company stands for; that’s why they went to work there. But they leave because of the treatment. They don’t leave because they don’t like the work–that’s the easy part.
Kathi: And now, we don’t have that much loyalty to companies–people just jump from one job to another. And part of it is because there isn’t any kind of human loyalty, and we need people in companies to have corporate memory of how things are done, otherwise we’re constantly reinventing the same wheel. But when you have people there who say, no, we did that five years ago, or we can do that again but let’s remember this… Without that, it’s just not as healthy for a company.
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3. What is one thing bosses can do right now to start on the path to becoming better bosses?
Kathi: We get into that boss baggage, which is that everybody brings three things to the relationship: expectations, needs and fears. I think understanding that, even if they don’t take that test, understanding that the employee has needs, they have expectations, and they have fears of authority. It is a set-up relationship, you’re not equals. The boss has the power. So I think if bosses were just to begin to think about that, if they put a little more time into understanding what each person needs and expects and fears…
Katherine: And I would say to give each employee some face time, and in that time to state your expectations. Back to what Kathi was saying before, when we don’t know what’s expected of us, we assume the worst. But even just that one-to-one face time can dispel a lot of the
Kathi: I just had a meeting with an employee, somebody at a pretty high level in the company, and told the employee her expectations, and then she asked the employee, “What are your expectations of me?” and the woman had an amazing answer. She said, “I need you to back me. I need you to stand up for me.” And then come find out what happened. And the boss said, I never would have known that. Thank you for telling me that. And I’ve checked in a couple of times, and she’s doing that, and the employee’s now in love with her–they get along so well now. That’s a simple thing that now she knows, and she can do.
Katherine: There are a lot of cases in which people have been working together for a long time, and those employees need to know that you’re watching out for them-–or that you’re just watching them. And noticing how they’re doing–whether they feel overwhelmed, or whether they need some help.
Missed the beginning of my interview with Katherine and Kathi? Catch up with Part I and Part II.
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